At the same time we were making our heaviest and darkest record at the Chrome Attic, we were making its polar opposite. The term object permanence refers to when an infant first understands that things still exist when out of sight. It’s the end to the phase of separation anxiety.

It’s still not really a bubble gum and unicorns kind of album; I think the songs just focus more on the silver linings than the clouds themselves. The album kicks off with my attempt to bring everyone together despite the divisive political climate leading up to the 2012 election. Didn’t realize that 4 years after writing the tongue-in-cheek line “VP’s on reality TV” we would have a reality TV personality as our president.

A couple weeks before we moved into the Chrome Attic for 4 days to track Separation Anxiety, we were in town at the IV Lab for 4 days tracking with Manny Sanchez.
We set up live, without amplification – I was on piano, Bob on upright bass, and Chris on drums. We did each song live to tape until we had a good full take, just like on the EPs and Separation Anxiety. We added just a few overdubs like trashy percussion, and had friends come in to sing, add strings and clarinet.

We released this album at Hideout on April 2, 2013. Then we did our 2nd Audiotree session and really pushed the pedal down on touring. Object Permanence is our best-selling record so far; we sold out of the 1st pressing of vinyl fast and then the 2nd pressing sold out pretty quickly, along with the CDs.